"Yes."And we observe that,in the revolution,the motion which carries round the larger and the lesser circle at the same time is proportionally distributed to greater and smaller,and is greater and smaller in a certain proportion.Here is a wonder which might be thought an impossibility,that the same motion should impart swiftness and slowness in due proportion to larger and lesser circles."Very true."And when you speak of bodies moving in many places,you seem to me to mean those which move from one place to another,and sometimes have one centre of motion and sometimes more than one because they turn upon their axis;and whenever they meet anything,if it be stationary,they are divided by it;but if they get in the midst between bodies which are approaching and moving towards the same spot from opposite directions,they unite with them."I admit the truth of what you are saying."Also when they unite they grow,and when they are divided they waste away-that is,supposing the constitution of each to remain,or if that fails,then there is a second reason of their dissolution."And when are all things created and how?"Clearly,they are created when the first principle receives increase and attains to the second dimension,and from this arrives at the one which is neighbour to this,and after reaching the third becomes perceptible to sense.Everything which is thus changing and moving is in process of generation;only when at rest has it real existence,but when passing into another state it is destroyed utterly.Have we not mentioned all motions that there are,and comprehended them under their kinds and numbered them with the exception,my friends,of two?
Cle.Which are they?
Ath.Just the two,with which our present enquiry is concerned.
Cle.Speak plainer.
Ath.I suppose that our enquiry has reference to the soul?
Cle.Very true.
Ath.Let us assume that there is a motion able to move other things,but not to move itself;-that is one kind;and there is another kind which can move itself as well as other things,working in composition and decomposition,by increase and diminution and generation and destruction-that is also one of the many kinds of motion.
Cle.Granted.
Ath.And we will assume that which moves other,and is changed by other,to be the ninth,and that which changes itself and others,and is co-incident with every action and every passion,and is the true principle of change and motion in all that is-that we shall be inclined to call the tenth.
Cle.Certainly.
Ath.And which of these ten motions ought we to prefer as being the mightiest and most efficient?
Cle.I must say that the motion which is able to move itself is ten thousand times superior to all the others.
Ath.Very good;but may I make one or two corrections in what I have been saying?
Cle.What are they?
Ath.When I spoke of the tenth sort of motion,that was not quite correct.
Cle.What was the error?
Ath.According to the true order,the tenth was really the first in generation and power;then follows the second,which was strangely enough termed the ninth by us.
Cle.What do you mean?
Ath.I mean this:when one thing changes another,and that another,of such will there be any primary changing element?How can a thing which is moved by another ever be the beginning of change?
Impossible.But when the self-moved changes other,and that again other,and thus thousands upon tens of thousands of bodies are set in motion,must not the beginning of all this motion be the change of the self-moving principle?
Cle.Very true,and I quite agree.
Ath.Or,to put the question in another way,****** answer to ourselves:-If,as most of these philosophers have the audacity to affirm,all things were at rest in one mass,which of the above-mentioned principles of motion would first spring up among them?
Cle.Clearly the self-moving;for there could be no change in them arising out of any external cause;the change must first take place in themselves.
Ath.Then we must say that self-motion being the origin of all motions,and the first which arises among things at rest as well as among things in motion,is the eldest and mightiest principle of change,and that which is changed by another and yet moves other is second.
Cle.Quite true.
Ath.At this stage of the argument let us put a question.
Cle.What question?
Ath.If we were to see this power existing in any earthy,watery,or fiery substance,****** or compound-how should we describe it?
Cle.You mean to ask whether we should call such a self-moving power life?
Ath.I do.
Cle.Certainly we should.
Ath.And when we see soul in anything,must we not do the same-must we not admit that this is life?
Cle.We must.
Ath.And now,I beseech you,reflect;-you would admit that we have a threefold knowledge of things?
Cle.What do you mean?
Ath.I mean that we know the essence,and that we know the definition of the essence,and the name,-these are the three;and there are two questions which may be raised about anything.
Cle.How two?
Ath.Sometimes a person may give the name and ask the definition;or he may give the definition and ask the name.I may illustrate what Imean in this way.
Cle.How?
Ath.Number like some other things is capable of being divided into equal parts;when thus divided,number is named "even,"and the definition of the name "even"is "number divisible into two equal parts"?
Cle.True.
Ath.I mean,that when we are asked about the definition and give the name,or when we are asked about the name and give the definition-in either case,whether we give name or definition,we speak of the same thing,calling "even"the number which is divided into two equal parts.
Cle.Quite true.
Ath.And what is the definition of that which is named "soul"?Can we conceive of any other than that which has been already given-the motion which can move itself?
Cle.You mean to say that the essence which is defined as the self-moved is the same with that which has the name soul?